Monday, June 16, 2008

Obama On Father's Day

A great speech:

Especially this:

“Too many fathers are MIA. Too many fathers are AWOL,” he told a huge African-American congregation in Chicago. “There’s a hole in your heart if you don’t have a male figure in the home that can guide you and lead you and set a good example for you.” “What makes you a man is not the ability to have a child — any fool can have a child,” he said, to applause. “That doesn’t make you a father. It’s the courage to raise a child that makes you a father.”

I won't vote for the guy, but I'm rethinking what I wrote here.

Of course, Anne Althouse thinks that some lesbians might be offended because Obama said a child might feel "hole in your heart when you don’t have a male figure in the home who can guide you and lead you." Too bad.


oneopinion said...

I loved what he said. Now I wish a woman would knock some sense into all of these girls who are having children "on their own".
It is one of the most harnful/socially destructive "trends" we have today. It's not as though these girls are good role models for any child.
I have listened to too many young women at work who are "going to get pregnant" (tough work) and enjoy the romantic/Norman Rockwell view of having children - baby showers, Christmases around a tree they won't be able to afford, coming home everyday to fed and clean children who just want to coo and look adorable for their mother - never mind living in poverty the rest of their lives and condemning innocent children to a life that is unnecessarily tough.

Paul, just this guy, you know? said...

I find it of interest that Obama believes that there can be a father without a child.

Fatherhood doesn't end at conception, he says, but he's also said he doesn't believe that life begins at conception.

Perhaps he believes that the father's responsibility also includes paying for the abortion.

Sweating Through fog said...


There's nobody there to "knock sense" into them, since our culture treats single moms like Divine Goddesses who exist on a different moral plane than us mere mortals. It seems once a woman decides to get pregnant - for any reason whatsoever - she suddenly becomes someone who is entitled to cash and personal caretakers to ensure she never has to suffer the slightest inconvenience that might otherwise follow from her choice. Our entire society must be focused on her needs, and her needs alone. After all she's a mom, and since she chose to be a single mom she must be treated like a saint. Her decisions must be beyond question, and all others must stand aside and defer to the Divine Goddess.

Unlike those retrograde slugs that participate in Patriarchal institutions like marriage.


I agree with you on the morality of abortion, not the politics of it. And I'm no Obama supporter. I just find it encouraging that a far left politician would say something that is supportive of traditional fatherhood. It is, unfortunately so rare nowdays.

Christy said...

You know - I applaud this speech by Obama (although I find myself seriously skeptical of him and his intentions.) I grew up with a single Mom who made bad choices in men. While Obama was talking about how we need to raise up the black boys - I'm thinking "Yes and we ALSO need to raise up our black girls (and all other races for that matter) to know they are worthy of SO much more than laying down with any old Joe. They need to know that their virginity is sacred and needs to be held on to and given only to a worthy man in marriage. These girls need to know they are in a solid home with a MAN who loves them, won't abuse them (physically or sexually) and will be that male figure to lean against until they choose a man just as solid to go through life with (or be strong enough to be a single woman her whole life.)

My mom was never romanticized or helped by the government, and thusly we had it HARD. I knew that I'd never let that happen to my children and made better choices in life (for which my mom and I are both glad.)

fibtastic said...

I found Obama's speech rather offensive frankly. I was leaning towards him before it and now I'm not.

Do we use mother's day to scold "lazy sluts" and "emasculating bitches"? No, we celebrate the the sacrifices of mothers and motherhood. Why is father's day always about cracking down on the mythical "deadbeat dad", and vaguely threatening all fathers to "shape up"?

Is it perhaps because democrats can never actually honor "fathers" as the decent, caring, dutiful, useful people (not monsters, actual people!) that most are without exposing the hate mongering sham that is the feminist conception of patriarchy, for just that?

The New Conservative said...

He made a great speech about the role of Fathers. Of course I've been saying that for years. The truth is it's probably not going to make a difference until society starts making these "men" feel ashamed of abandoning their familes. Hard to believe we have to make someone feel ashamed about that isn't it.

fibtastic said...

I would respond to thenewconservatives's call for more shaming of men by saying that I think there is and has been for 30 years or so, plenty of shaming of men and fathers.

If we want to rectify the situation of fatherlessness, the key is RESTORING FATHER'S RIGHTS to their children, and giving men equal rights to reproductive choice.

Right now we have a situation akin to taxation without representation-- responsibility without choice, both before birth and in the growing child's life.

Sweating Through fog said...

Christy - thanks for stopping by.

Sweating Through fog said...


Yes, his speech had the usual castigating of fathers, and you are right, there is no equivalent castigating of Moms on Mother's day. I prefer not to make the perfect the enemy of the good, and any praise of fathers from a leftist politician, any statement that fathers are important to the children is a step in the right direction.

The New Conservative said...

I'm understand what your point is fibtastic. Your right men have been largely told their irrelevant by a portion of society. Also many woman don't think they need a man to raise a child. However it's not a excuse for not taking care of your children. Men and women both have unique attributes and all of those attributes are important in raising a child. If we had a epidemic of mother's running out on their children I think you would hear this speech on mother's day.